Communism and human nature (Bolshie Mod sez, Arise ye kittens of the earth!)

Bolshie Mod Manifesto ^

[Sammy sam]

Many argue that communism will never be possible because of "human nature". The essence of this false argument is the belief that a communist society would consist of an all-powerful central government that would tell everybody what to do--and would therefore undermine the creative initiative of individuals and the search for happiness.

• This argument is based on two false assumptions:

(1) It assumes that a communist society will look like the former Soviet Union, or the current China, North Korea, etc (ie: corrupt police states with a feudal-style ruling class) (2) It assumes that people will only work in order to own bigger and bigger piles of commodities.

• The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone. The development of a corrupt police state or a new ruling class will be prevented by the struggles of the masses who will be armed with the weapon of transparency. (2) In a world of abundance for all no one will have to struggle (or even work) for the necessities of life (which will be a birthright--just like the air we all breathe). People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition. A world of abundance for all where work is fun (and voluntary) will be made possible by a much higher productivity of human labor.

• An example of communist work relationships is provided by the Linux computer operating system--the core of which was created by many thousands of people--all working for free. A 2nd example is the "work" involved when people post to this forum. No one gets paid to post here--but people do so--because it is an expression of their principles and convictions.

• Who is in control? Under capitalism (and previous economic systems such as feudalism and slavery) only a small fraction of the population has control over their conditions of work--and the life of society as a whole. Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society.

[Killborn]

Thanks for the ping. Sigh. I was in class and missed the zot. Next time. :(

[RushCrush]

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

Fun with Keywords PING!!

[SoVaDPJ]

I assumed as much :-)

[dighton]

Did someone say keyword?

;-)

[Arrowhead1952]

You must be talking about this thread.

why do you guys keep banning me? (Zot! Because we can) (Juwish modz totally rewl!)

[Always Right]

People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition. A world of abundance for all where work is fun (and voluntary) will be made possible by a much higher productivity of human labor.

Sounds great, we will all become baseball players and actresses because that is what we find interesting and fun! The hard part will be finding people who want to clean toilets.

[Mrs.Nooseman]

Oh my,that is a lot of keywords!

[SmithL]

So so long, Sammy sam"

[Mrs.Nooseman]

Holy smokes,I didn't know there were that many keywords!

[Hi Heels]

Oh Sammy Sam: Meet Kitty Kit!

[4mycountry]

Weapon of mass transparency:

[Killborn]

"1. From bondage to spiritual faith.
2. From faith to great courage.
3. From courage to liberty.
4. From liberty to abundance.
5. From abundance to complacency.
6. From complacency to selfishness.
7. From selfishness to apathy.
8. From apathy to dependency.
9. And from dependency back again into bondage."

We are at stage 8. Let's make sure we never get to 9 and bring it back to 4.

[SlowBoat407]

Trying really really hard to keep from laughing so my officemate won't think I've lost it completely.

[usapatriot28]

An example of communist work relationships is provided by the Linux computer operating system--the core of which was created by many thousands of people--all working for free.

The core of Linux may have been contributed to by thousands of developers, but the ultimate decisions about what goes into the core and what doesn't is made by Linus Torvalds and/or his appointed "lieutenants". Granted you are free to modify the core or create your own distribution, but the claim that the core development of Linux operates without centralized "government" is patently false.

[MeekOneGOP]

What do we got, a KEYWORD bot?

hahaha! I doubt he did all of those. Most likely,
Freepers heckling his thread adding them.

[Arrowhead1952]

See the reply above mine (85 posted on 04/05/2005 2:39:17 PM CDT by dighton ) here and click the link on it.

[Thunder90]

Sorry for the whole keyword thingy... This guy covers all corners of the Zot world.

[Mrs.Nooseman]

Um...that is what I was referring to!

LOL

[Grampa Dave]

It must be spring break, and you are at your Mommy's computer. You must be measuring in Fudge Packing for fun and pleasure via the Communist way.